Oh Sazed seems extremely interesting as it is. Though I had originally figured there'd be one of the eight basic metals involved in Renoux's disguise but maybe it's one of the other two. It'd be no fun if there wasn't anything to form theorys about and see what happens
I thought that pushing and pulling to get around, especially the first time we see Kelsier do it, seemed awkward. I got the impression the author might have been going for a different impression than I got.
It seemed like he wanted to keep some moderately accurate physical properties in a fantasy world. Stuff like inertia and force would presumably be more or less the same as what we have in the real world, they just have more ways to interact with matter.
I thought the concept was cool and well thought out, it just seemed at least to me like he was trying to describe it more gracefully than I got the impression of
I was talking about when Kelsier does it. He definitely does it really well but I wasnt quite getting the "graceful" that I could tell the author was trying for. But it could have just been me just visualizing getting yanked back and forth like a rag doll
That could definitely happen, but he doesn't push/pull hard enough for that when he's just traversing. He's also enhanced by Pewter, so he his body can take more stress.
That is fair. Dual purpose, foreshadowing for some future events, as well as character background so you can understand a little more about motives and behaviors.
Though I must say every time someone's name is said I keep wondering if it is the same dude but don't feel like going back to look. At least the main people have names I can keep track of though I was thrown a couple times when they called Ham by his full name. But that's all nothing against the writing I'm just horrible with names.
I thought it was suuuuuuper slow to get started. Just couldn't make myself care about the dynamic between peasants and royals, but I know it was necessary to explain the world dynamic.
I for one didn't find this first part boring and thought the world building was handled well. I didnt think the social dynamic really dragged. Especially since it is very important to their plan. With the magic: how else is a character who doesn't know this stuff supposed to learn it?
It was certainly handled better than some other fantasy books I've read (like Tolkien), but I still felt like I wasn't compelled to invest myself in it until later on. The social dynamic felt paced to me, but I agree that the magic was done very well. With so many different metals and interactions, it makes sense to take them one by one, and it felt organic to the story since the protagonist has some tentative exposure with one, but no understanding of it. She would need to learn about the different styles of magic, just like the audience.
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The mist reminds me of the methods that a lot of video games use to limit players from exploring outside places that they are intended to be. Here's a vague thing that you don't want to get near because it's bad. Don't go that way.
And following up with that, I feel like the entire book reads very much like a video game. The magic interactions feel like the sort of movement tech and abilities that a game would give you. Honestly, I think that's a great thing.
I really liked the characters especially Kelsier
ReplyDeleteI feel like he's a non-traditional leader, but a good one.
DeleteRenoux and Sazed are more interesting than they seem.
DeleteOh Sazed seems extremely interesting as it is. Though I had originally figured there'd be one of the eight basic metals involved in Renoux's disguise but maybe it's one of the other two. It'd be no fun if there wasn't anything to form theorys about and see what happens
DeleteThere's a lot to theorize about in this series, which is one of the reasons I like it. I won't say anything else about Renoux, I'll let you ponder.
DeleteI thought that pushing and pulling to get around, especially the first time we see Kelsier do it, seemed awkward. I got the impression the author might have been going for a different impression than I got.
ReplyDeleteIt seemed like he wanted to keep some moderately accurate physical properties in a fantasy world. Stuff like inertia and force would presumably be more or less the same as what we have in the real world, they just have more ways to interact with matter.
DeleteI thought the concept was cool and well thought out, it just seemed at least to me like he was trying to describe it more gracefully than I got the impression of
DeleteAnything would be pretty clunky the first few times you do it.
DeleteSome are more graceful than others. Kelsier is known to be one of the best.
DeleteI was talking about when Kelsier does it. He definitely does it really well but I wasnt quite getting the "graceful" that I could tell the author was trying for. But it could have just been me just visualizing getting yanked back and forth like a rag doll
DeleteThat could definitely happen, but he doesn't push/pull hard enough for that when he's just traversing. He's also enhanced by Pewter, so he his body can take more stress.
DeleteI keep expecting something to happen with the dude the thieves betrayed at the beginning
ReplyDeleteI think that unfolds a little later on. But I do agree, it was like they lay out this dramatic intro, and then just kinda forget it happened.
DeleteEh if it shows up again it's forshadowing but it does give a very clear example of the life Vin is used to
DeleteThat is fair. Dual purpose, foreshadowing for some future events, as well as character background so you can understand a little more about motives and behaviors.
DeleteWhich dude are we talking about? I can confirm or deny.
DeleteTheron dude who partnered with Vin's old boss to pull the stunt with the transportation scam. He seemed interesting for the like 2 mins he was there
DeleteThough I must say every time someone's name is said I keep wondering if it is the same dude but don't feel like going back to look. At least the main people have names I can keep track of though I was thrown a couple times when they called Ham by his full name. But that's all nothing against the writing I'm just horrible with names.
DeleteTheron shows back up later.
DeleteI thought it was suuuuuuper slow to get started. Just couldn't make myself care about the dynamic between peasants and royals, but I know it was necessary to explain the world dynamic.
ReplyDeleteI for one didn't find this first part boring and thought the world building was handled well. I didnt think the social dynamic really dragged. Especially since it is very important to their plan. With the magic: how else is a character who doesn't know this stuff supposed to learn it?
DeleteIt was certainly handled better than some other fantasy books I've read (like Tolkien), but I still felt like I wasn't compelled to invest myself in it until later on. The social dynamic felt paced to me, but I agree that the magic was done very well. With so many different metals and interactions, it makes sense to take them one by one, and it felt organic to the story since the protagonist has some tentative exposure with one, but no understanding of it. She would need to learn about the different styles of magic, just like the audience.
DeleteThe peasant/royal dynamic is necessary to explain why Kelsier's crew has so much hate.
DeleteI bet you hated the planning scenes, Jake, didn't you? I was reading them thinking this is probably why Jake thought it dragged.
DeleteI always hate planning scenes.
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ReplyDeleteInteresting observation.
DeleteWell, I posted a comment and then as soon as it loaded the page with it, I saw Jake made a comment that mine would fit better under so I copied, deleted, pasted, and added.
DeleteAdded to the comment I mean. It needed a little bit more to be a true reply.
DeleteThe mist reminds me of the methods that a lot of video games use to limit players from exploring outside places that they are intended to be. Here's a vague thing that you don't want to get near because it's bad. Don't go that way.
ReplyDeleteAnd following up with that, I feel like the entire book reads very much like a video game. The magic interactions feel like the sort of movement tech and abilities that a game would give you. Honestly, I think that's a great thing.
DeleteMistwraith was weird but kinda reminded me of a typical ooze or slime just less jelloey rofl
DeleteMistwraiths are amalgamations of different body parts. They're pretty horrifying to look at. You'll find out a lot more about these.
DeleteI liked how he could guess exactly which metal she tried based on her physical reactions.
ReplyDeleteKelsier is good at reading people, probably beyond anything else that he does.
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